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Amount of Ram?

Amount of ram?

  • 8 Gb or lower

    Votes: 2 4.0%
  • 16 Gb

    Votes: 7 14.0%
  • 32 Gb

    Votes: 23 46.0%
  • 64 Gb

    Votes: 15 30.0%
  • 128 Gb

    Votes: 3 6.0%
  • 256 Gb or higher

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 1 2.0%

  • Total voters
    50

TwinStar

Member
Just out of curiosity, what was your problem with setting the High Performance GPU

You have to go into the settings and browse through the computer and 'find' Alibre and then add it to the graphics side so that you can edit the graphics. I can't put into words how much I hate PC's but it is what it is. The lack of Mac support is the singular complaint that I have for Alibre. Hopefully by the time my new PC is in need of replacement Alibre will be supported on Macs.
 

TwinStar

Member
VERY nice!
Very fast single core speed. Should run all CAD stuff very quickly.
Photo & video rendering too with all those cores being used.



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Jim

So far it's blazing fast with no lag. I'm currently modeling a heavyweight passenger car with hundreds, if not thousands, or rivets on it. My old PC was lagging so bad that I quite working on the file. This one certainly appears to be up to the task and once I'm in Alibre I'm enjoying myself again.
 

JimCad

Senior Member
Worth every penny.
I remember in around 2010 I was working on Inventor, creating sewage plant on early xeon based systems and the files were so large that if I touched the model it would take an hour to update.
Drove me crazy !
Modern CPUs are so much better.
Sounds like you have a flying machine there.
Jim
 

aptivaboy

Senior Member
Currently using a Ryzen system with 64 gigs of RAM, but that's overkill. Realistically, a good cpu and 16/32 gigs should be just fine.
 

JASII

Member
For Windows users, as a baseline, you can open the Task Manager alongside Alibre and try to find your bottleneck. Just start working and watch the numbers/graphs. As previously mentioned the complexity of your model(s) will dictate alot. Possible bottlenecks are:
- CPU/chipset
- Dedicated System Memory
- Integrated GPU in CPU w/shared memory
- Dedicated GPU w/dedicated memory
- Disk media (SATA/SSD, NVMe, etc.)
- The physical Display

You can then 'tune' the system accordingly (SW Settings/HW Upgrades). In my case, I disabled the Integrated GPU to insure that the dedicated GPU (which costs more than all of the other components combined) was being utilized. Hope this helps, a bit...

( Note: The pic shows low utilization of everything as I am just taking a screen capture)
 

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TwinStar

Member
For Windows users, as a baseline, you can open the Task Manager alongside Alibre and try to find your bottleneck. Just start working and watch the numbers/graphs. As previously mentioned the complexity of your model(s) will dictate alot. Possible bottlenecks are:
- CPU/chipset
- Dedicated System Memory
- Integrated GPU in CPU w/shared memory
- Dedicated GPU w/dedicated memory
- Disk media (SATA/SSD, NVMe, etc.)
- The physical Display

You can then 'tune' the system accordingly (SW Settings/HW Upgrades). In my case, I disabled the Integrated GPU to insure that the dedicated GPU (which costs more than all of the other components combined) was being utilized. Hope this helps, a bit...

( Note: The pic shows low utilization of everything as I am just taking a screen capture)

My memory is running at 34% with nothing but Task Manager open. There's a metric ton (110) Background Processes running. Are all of those necessary?

I also feel like I'm in a drunk simulator when I'm trying to rotate my designs with my mouse. It's crude, jumps all over the place, and it's nearly impossible to fine tune anything. Is the culprit my mouse or something internal?
 
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bolsover

Senior Member
My memory is running at 34% with nothing but Task Manager open. There's a metric ton (110) Background Processes running. Are all of those necessary?

I also feel like I'm in a drunk simulator when I'm trying to rotate my designs with my mouse. It's crude, jumps all over the place, and it's nearly impossible to find tune anything. Is the culprit my mouse of something internal?
What is your system spec?
CPU, RAM, GPU?
 

DavidJ

Administrator
Staff member
GPU details needed really too.

Check out

Make sure hardware accelerated graphics scheduling is enabled in Windows (if available)

For dual graphics adapters in a laptop - make sure Alibre is using the high performance adapter - note watch video to end and see the confirmation test.
 

JASII

Member
My memory is running at 34% with nothing but Task Manager open. There's a metric ton (110) Background Processes running. Are all of those necessary?

I also feel like I'm in a drunk simulator when I'm trying to rotate my designs with my mouse. It's crude, jumps all over the place, and it's nearly impossible to find tune anything. Is the culprit my mouse of something internal?
Re: background processes, at startup I have 80 background and 111 Windows processes running so that should not be an issue especially if your CPU/Memory percentage is low.

Note: your monitor can also come into play regarding its specs such as response time, refresh rate, etc...

Also, the way I 'tune' my systems is by using a detailed hardware monitor such as 'Libre Hardware Monitor'. Opensource/free. It not only shows you intimate detail of your system, but logs maximums while running which are hard to measure real-time.
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It also has a desktop widget you can customize for ongoing monitoring...
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bolsover

Senior Member
Good questions. I updated my signature with what I think is all the relevant information. Let me know if something is missing.

jacob
Hi Jacob
Given you have a Dell XPS15 9530 you 'should' be seeing quite good performance - but the devil is in the detail..
As @DavidJ says, you do need to check the Alibre settings to ensure the dedicated high performance GPU is being used and not the GPU integrated with the CPU.
I'm guessing you have an Nvidia 4060 or 4070 - either should work quite well.

If you are experiencing poor refresh rate, it seems likely something is taking up all the GPU or CPU time - use task manager to identify what is using all the PC resources and stop any problematic foreground/background processes as appropriate.

TBH, I'm not sure how a hardware monitor (as suggested by @JASII ) would help - most likely it will just consume even more resources.

Finally - signature - an i9-13700 can run at up to 5.4GHz - fast!! But I guess it only does that when pressed - might be worth checking windows performance settings.
 

TwinStar

Member
GPU details needed really too.

Check out

Make sure hardware accelerated graphics scheduling is enabled in Windows (if available)

For dual graphics adapters in a laptop - make sure Alibre is using the high performance adapter - note watch video to end and see the confirmation test.

Added. Thanks!
 

DavidJ

Administrator
Staff member
And have you verified that the RTX 4060 is actually being used by Alibre? Don't just assume that what Windows reports is correct.
 

JASII

Member
TBH, I'm not sure how a hardware monitor (as suggested by @JASII ) would help - most likely it will just consume even more resources.
With all due respect, Task Manager and Hardware Manager consume roughly the same amount of resources as shown below:

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TASK manager is aptly named as its main pupose is to monitor and manage tasks & processes. Its performance monitoring can help identify glaring bottlenecks but is not granular enough for fine tuning.

Case in point is I am currently having an issue with one of my other single threaded apps that seems to love my CPU Core #11:

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Anyway, just trying to help by sharing my 40 years of custom PC building.

Jerry.
 

TwinStar

Member
GPU details needed really too.

Check out

Make sure hardware accelerated graphics scheduling is enabled in Windows (if available)

For dual graphics adapters in a laptop - make sure Alibre is using the high performance adapter - note watch video to end and see the confirmation test.

David:

I followed the video and the authors PC was nearly identical to mine. I did select the NVDIA GPU for Alibre as it was not selected. The only difference is that mine says GPU 1- Copy instead of GPU 1- 3D. Not sure if that's an issue. My NVDIA is sitting int he GPU 1 slot.

Many, many, many thanks!
 
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