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Stu3d

Senior Member
If that is the practice model leaderboard Toby said some people have figured a way to trick the times. He said he would delete those really quick times. That was in one of the model Monday videos recently.
You can start a practice model, grab the drawing and then abort. Do the model at your leisure, restart the practice model and enter the mass straight away.

I am am in the process of doing the Monthly Leaderboard Challenge but only got a couple of days to enter. My only timed run so far was over 11 minutes with minimal practice on the second 2 models so hoping for sub 8m.

Edit: I managed 7m 27s, nowhere near @Ex Machina 4m 04s but I am very pleased. I still have some room for improvement but wouldn't get below 7 minutes. If it wasn't for my shortcut keyboard and macro keys I would probably be double that time!
 
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Ken226

Alibre Super User
When I start the timer, I have to right click/copy the drawing and open it as a .jpg. It takes some time to do, but otherwise the exercise wouldn't be doable.

The drawing image opens way too small on the webpage, and has some kind of psychedelic color flickering around the borders that would throw an epileptic into a fit!

Also, since I'm working on a single screen laptop, It's easier to go back and forth between Alibre and the drawing with a jpg, because I can use the buttons in the taskbar side by side, instead of having to go back and forth via the browser tab top, and Alibre Icon in the taskbar.
 

Ex Machina

Senior Member
You can start a practice model, grab the drawing and then abort. Do the model at your leisure, restart the practice model and enter the mass straight away.

I am am in the process of doing the Monthly Leaderboard Challenge but only got a couple of days to enter. My only timed run so far was over 11 minutes with minimal practice on the second 2 models so hoping for sub 8m.

Edit: I managed 7m 27s, nowhere near @Ex Machina 4m 04s but I am very pleased. I still have some room for improvement but wouldn't get below 7 minutes. If it wasn't for my shortcut keyboard and macro keys I would probably be double that time!
I saw your 7:31 video. Pretty cool, actually!

I do a lot of practice and strategizing. The 04:04 you see there is the result of 3 Saturdays of thinking and practicing and even when I submitted the time, I still had about an hour of failed attempts before that.
Just giving some perspective here. So, if you approach it like you would approach any '80s-'90s platformer video game, you should be able to get under 5min even with that set of features. And even then, I think that if you follow my set of features you'll drop it even further.

P.S. Always nice to see multiple Alibre entries on the board.
 

Stu3d

Senior Member
I saw your 7:31 video. Pretty cool, actually!

I do a lot of practice and strategizing. The 04:04 you see there is the result of 3 Saturdays of thinking and practicing and even when I submitted the time, I still had about an hour of failed attempts before that.
Just giving some perspective here. So, if you approach it like you would approach any '80s-'90s platformer video game, you should be able to get under 5min even with that set of features. And even then, I think that if you follow my set of features you'll drop it even further.

P.S. Always nice to see multiple Alibre entries on the board.

7.27 video didn't show the time properly so didn't upload it. I watched my 7:31 video and it looked so slow, I saw lots of places I could make up time, mainly due to hesitation, but it's like putting the perfect lap together on the Nordschleife!

I only decided to enter the challenge yesterday so haven't had a huge amount of practice but my eyes still hurt o_O
Each drawing became a fascinating puzzle as I looked for a way to make each bit of each feature quicker, I have learnt a lot about Thin Extrude amongst other things. I will watch your video again to see what I can apply to the way I draw which is more about reference geometry and less about constraints, 30+ years of 2d cad doesn't help.

I have memorised the metric drawings fairly easily without trying but struggle witth the imperial drawing probably because of the decimal places, I had to divide that up in to sections and read the dimensions, particularly the highlighted ones. Not as young as I was so my brain likely has some limitations.
My crib sheet below :)

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Ken226

Alibre Super User
On the last one to drop:

The widget, spinner thing, i'm curious as to what strategy you guys use to do the spokes?

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Ex Machina

Senior Member
On the last one to drop:

The widget, spinner thing, i'm curious as to what strategy you guys use to do the spokes?

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Draw the line of one of them and then sweep a cylinder. Do the weird bulge on the end. And then pattern equal spacing 5 instances.

P.S. Actually, just extrude a cylinder midplane...
 
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When I start the timer, I have to right click/copy the drawing and open it as a .jpg. It takes some time to do, but otherwise the exercise wouldn't be doable.

The drawing image opens way too small on the webpage, and has some kind of psychedelic color flickering around the borders that would throw an epileptic into a fit!

Also, since I'm working on a single screen laptop, It's easier to go back and forth between Alibre and the drawing with a jpg, because I can use the buttons in the taskbar side by side, instead of having to go back and forth via the browser tab top, and Alibre Icon in the taskbar.
Try using OBS recording/streaming software. Don't stream, just make a new scene, under sources right click, then do window capture, capture your Internet window, and move it to the side. Then to the same with Alibre. Then in the sources window, put Alibre on top. You can tell it to record and then minimize the whole thing while you work.
 

HaroldL

Alibre Super User
Also, since I'm working on a single screen laptop,
How large is the monitor on your laptop? I have a 17" laptop and I bought a 24" monitor to jack in to when at home. That makes a world of difference. Nothing like more viewing real estate for CAD work.
 

Ken226

Alibre Super User
How large is the monitor on your laptop? I have a 17" laptop and I bought a 24" monitor to jack in to when at home. That makes a world of difference. Nothing like more viewing real estate for CAD work.

15.4"

I need it to be able to fit in an FAA approved carry on "personal item" sized container.

I have a large, curved type monitor for when I'm at home, but that accounts for a tiny percentage of its use time. The way I'm doing it, while not ideal, does work, whether I'm stuck in a plane, train, automobile or in a hotel room.

In 2 years, 3 months and 6 days those things will no longer be of any concern.
 
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Ken226

Alibre Super User
Try using OBS recording/streaming software. Don't stream, just make a new scene, under sources right click, then do window capture, capture your Internet window, and move it to the side. Then to the same with Alibre. Then in the sources window, put Alibre on top. You can tell it to record and then minimize the whole thing while you work.

I don't think I'm following.

Are you talking about working from 2 reduced sized windows, both on 1 15.5" sized screen? I'm not sure I could do that very well.
 
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sacherjj

Member
I tried making a plane 30 offset and then a axis and rotated plane of 21 degrees. Circle to geometry of the center. Then is was mirror and 5x pattern. But I'm coming up about .15 grams light. So I have something wrong with geometry in this manner and made a bad assumption.
 

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HaroldL

Alibre Super User
I tried making a plane 30 offset and then a axis and rotated plane of 21 degrees. Circle to geometry of the center. Then is was mirror and 5x pattern. But I'm coming up about .15 grams light. So I have something wrong with geometry in this manner and made a bad assumption.
Compare the radius of the annular ring around the star point ball and the diameter of the rods. The ring should be larger than the diameter of the rods. Compare my posted image in post #270.
 

HaroldL

Alibre Super User
I need it to be able to fit in an FAA approved carry on "personal item" sized container.
When I was working I was able to carry-on a 17" laptop with no issues. Did FAA reduce the size of personal items?

I can't imagine working on such a small screen, just thinking about it hurts my eyes.
 

Ken226

Alibre Super User
When I was working I was able to carry-on a 17" laptop with no issues. Did FAA reduce the size of personal items?

I can't imagine working on such a small screen, just thinking about it hurts my eyes.

No, the max is 18". A 17" would work fine, but I don't think it would make any difference with Too Tall Toby's practice models. I'd still only be able to see one window at a time.

A couple more years and it'll no longer be a concern.
 

sacherjj

Member
If that is the practice model leaderboard Toby said some people have figured a way to trick the times. He said he would delete those really quick times. That was in one of the model Monday videos recently.
It isn't rocket science. View Source. Search for "max" and third hit is javascript showing max and min weights. I don't care about times. I'm using as a learning tool. So often I'll save the image to noodle around on and then come back to mark as complete. This is another way to game it. Get the weight using normal means, but start again and then submit.

For this to be legit it would need to hold all this data server side and accumulate all time spent since starting the problem until finishing.
 
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