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FW: [Alibre Design] Re: Alibre Design Newsgroup Forum Update

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From: Scott Wertel[SMTP:SWERTEL@YAHOO.COM]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 6:26:27 PM
To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Alibre Design] Re: Alibre Design Newsgroup Forum Update
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That would be the miscellaneous section. That subgroup will be the
area with the heaviest traffic. It handles all our questions,
problems, and other info on the modeling and drafting portions of
Alibre. Basically, the bulk of what goes on here will just move to
miscellaneous.

--Scott


--- In alibre@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Beach" <rbeach@s...> wrote:
> How about a "how do I do it?" section?
>
> Bob Beach
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gregmilliken [mailto:gregm@a...]
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 4:13 PM
> To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Alibre Design] Re: Alibre Design Newsgroup Forum Update
>
>
> The new newsgroup will be readable with a standard newsreader and it
> also will have a web interface, so you get the best of both worlds.
>
> We are also reviewing the categories suggested by Scott as a first
> pass. These include:
> (1) binaries
> (2) miscellaneous
> (3) file management
> (4) enhancements
> (5) hardware
> (6) Alibre Announcements
> (7) add-ons
>
> Bear with us as this gets rolling. We'll tweak it as rapidly as
> possible to meet everyone's expectations.
>
> -Greg
>
>
> --- In alibre@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <flywithme6@c...> wrote:
> > Outhouse Express? Yuck. I use Forte Agent for reading news, but
> mainly
> > because I download a lot of binaries as well, and Outhouse express
> is
> > horrible for downloading newsgroup binaries.
> >
> >
> >
> > But I don't think they are going to be creating a usenet
> newsgroup, but a
> > web based forum. Creating a usenet group newsgroup takes no
> effort at all,
> > unless you want to host it on your own server like SolidEdge
> does. All you
> > do is send a control message to alt.config and your group is
> created. After
> > your friends and collegues start using the group, you can start
> asking the
> > other nsp's to start carrying that group and the whole world can
> start using
> > it. I was under the impression that they are going to start up a
> web based
> > forum.
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone have any more details on what the new message group will be?
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Scott Wertel [mailto:swertel@y...]
> > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 7:45 AM
> > To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Alibre Design] Re: Alibre Design Newsgroup Forum Update
> >
> >
> >
> > If you use the newsreader provided by your email applications
> > (assuming you don't use Outlook, which forces you into Outlook
> > Express for news), you essentially do get all the messages in your
> > inbox. It's just a different inbox.
> >
> > --Scott
> >
> >
> > --- In alibre@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <flywithme6@c...> wrote:
> > > I was under the impression it would be more of a bulletin board,
> > much like
> > > the forums at these places:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.reeflounge.com/forum/index.php
> > >
> > > http://www.eng-tips.com < http://www.eng-tips.com/>
> > >
> > > http://web.camaross.com/forums/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > (I just noticed, there already IS an Alibre forum on eng-
> tips.com
> > at
> > > http://www.eng-
> tips.com/gthreadminder.cfm/lev2/22/lev3/70/pid/859 )
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > These forums have thousands of members, over 7,000 on the
> > reeflounge and
> > > 44,000 on the CamaroZ28.com lounge. My concern is that there
> > aren't really
> > > enough Alibre list members (yet) that are active posters to
> > support a group
> > > like that. While it may be possible with the other groups,
> > currently the
> > > only way you can receive actual emails from them is if you
> either
> > created
> > > the thread, or responded to an existing one. I feel that the
> fact
> > that this
> > > group can be sent straight to people's inboxes is one of the
> > reason nearly
> > > every post or question gets responded to quickly. I believe
> that
> > if the
> > > group is switched to a website that must be logged into in order
> > to read
> > > posts, that the speed at which questions get answered and the
> > number of
> > > people that respond to each one will drop.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I know that every question that's posed to the current group
> gets
> > answered,
> > > largely because it shows up in people's inboxes. If you look at
> > the
> > > eng-tips.com Alibre forum, there are many questions that had no
> > responses at
> > > all.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I know for me, personally, I only go to the other groups from
> time
> > to time,
> > > when I have something to look up, or am looking to buy something
> > on one of
> > > their for sale boards. But I check my email frequently
> throughout
> > the day.
> > > If it's possible to have both, a forum style bulletin board, and
> > still
> > > receive all messages through email, that would be the best of
> both
> > worlds.
> > > But if not, I think the amount of postings and responses will
> drop
> > for a
> > > while until the number of users climbs dramatically. Maybe not,
> > just my
> > > belief.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How many of you out there read this group mainly or strictly
> > through the
> > > Yahoo web interface?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > * To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alibre/
> >
> > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > alibre-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:alibre-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe>
> >
> > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service
> > < http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
>
>
>
>
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FW: [Alibre Design] Re: Alibre Design Newsgroup Forum Update

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From: jwknecht[SMTP:JWKNECHT@YAHOO.COM]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 10:15:25 PM
To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Alibre Design] Re: Alibre Design Newsgroup Forum Update
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Is there a way to include multiple category tags to apply to each
post too (from a pull down list)? That way, we could further sort
by category. For example, if I wanted to query all posts on tips on
how to engrave text on parts or how to import from a specific
application. I agree with Bob that it would be useful to find "how
to do it" or "tips and tricks."

--- In alibre@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Wertel" <swertel@y...> wrote:
> That would be the miscellaneous section. That subgroup will be the
> area with the heaviest traffic. It handles all our questions,
> problems, and other info on the modeling and drafting portions of
> Alibre. Basically, the bulk of what goes on here will just move to
> miscellaneous.
>
> --Scott
>
>
> --- In alibre@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Beach" <rbeach@s...> wrote:
> > How about a "how do I do it?" section?
> >
> > Bob Beach
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gregmilliken [mailto:gregm@a...]
> > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 4:13 PM
> > To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Alibre Design] Re: Alibre Design Newsgroup Forum
Update
> >
> >
> > The new newsgroup will be readable with a standard newsreader
and it
> > also will have a web interface, so you get the best of both
worlds.
> >
> > We are also reviewing the categories suggested by Scott as a
first
> > pass. These include:
> > (1) binaries
> > (2) miscellaneous
> > (3) file management
> > (4) enhancements
> > (5) hardware
> > (6) Alibre Announcements
> > (7) add-ons
> >
> > Bear with us as this gets rolling. We'll tweak it as rapidly
as
> > possible to meet everyone's expectations.
> >
> > -Greg
> >
> >
> > --- In alibre@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <flywithme6@c...> wrote:
> > > Outhouse Express? Yuck. I use Forte Agent for reading
news, but
> > mainly
> > > because I download a lot of binaries as well, and Outhouse
express
> > is
> > > horrible for downloading newsgroup binaries.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > But I don't think they are going to be creating a usenet
> > newsgroup, but a
> > > web based forum. Creating a usenet group newsgroup takes no
> > effort at all,
> > > unless you want to host it on your own server like SolidEdge
> > does. All you
> > > do is send a control message to alt.config and your group is
> > created. After
> > > your friends and collegues start using the group, you can
start
> > asking the
> > > other nsp's to start carrying that group and the whole world
can
> > start using
> > > it. I was under the impression that they are going to start
up a
> > web based
> > > forum.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone have any more details on what the new message group
will be?
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: Scott Wertel [mailto:swertel@y...]
> > > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 7:45 AM
> > > To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Alibre Design] Re: Alibre Design Newsgroup Forum
Update
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If you use the newsreader provided by your email applications
> > > (assuming you don't use Outlook, which forces you into
Outlook
> > > Express for news), you essentially do get all the messages
in your
> > > inbox. It's just a different inbox.
> > >
> > > --Scott
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In alibre@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <flywithme6@c...>
wrote:
> > > > I was under the impression it would be more of a bulletin
board,
> > > much like
> > > > the forums at these places:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://www.reeflounge.com/forum/index.php
> > > >
> > > > http://www.eng-tips.com < http://www.eng-tips.com/>
> > > >
> > > > http://web.camaross.com/forums/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > (I just noticed, there already IS an Alibre forum on eng-
> > tips.com
> > > at
> > > > http://www.eng-
> > tips.com/gthreadminder.cfm/lev2/22/lev3/70/pid/859 )
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > These forums have thousands of members, over 7,000 on the
> > > reeflounge and
> > > > 44,000 on the CamaroZ28.com lounge. My concern is that
there
> > > aren't really
> > > > enough Alibre list members (yet) that are active posters to
> > > support a group
> > > > like that. While it may be possible with the other groups,
> > > currently the
> > > > only way you can receive actual emails from them is if you
> > either
> > > created
> > > > the thread, or responded to an existing one. I feel that
the
> > fact
> > > that this
> > > > group can be sent straight to people's inboxes is one of
the
> > > reason nearly
> > > > every post or question gets responded to quickly. I
believe
> > that
> > > if the
> > > > group is switched to a website that must be logged into in
order
> > > to read
> > > > posts, that the speed at which questions get answered and
the
> > > number of
> > > > people that respond to each one will drop.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I know that every question that's posed to the current
group
> > gets
> > > answered,
> > > > largely because it shows up in people's inboxes. If you
look at
> > > the
> > > > eng-tips.com Alibre forum, there are many questions that
had no
> > > responses at
> > > > all.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I know for me, personally, I only go to the other groups
from
> > time
> > > to time,
> > > > when I have something to look up, or am looking to buy
something
> > > on one of
> > > > their for sale boards. But I check my email frequently
> > throughout
> > > the day.
> > > > If it's possible to have both, a forum style bulletin
board, and
> > > still
> > > > receive all messages through email, that would be the best
of
> > both
> > > worlds.
> > > > But if not, I think the amount of postings and responses
will
> > drop
> > > for a
> > > > while until the number of users climbs dramatically.
Maybe not,
> > > just my
> > > > belief.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How many of you out there read this group mainly or
strictly
> > > through the
> > > > Yahoo web interface?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > > * To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alibre/
> > >
> > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > > alibre-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:alibre-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?
subject=Unsubscribe>
> > >
> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!
Terms of
> > Service
> > > < http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
---------
> > --
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> >
> > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alibre/
> >
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> > alibre-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms
of
> Service.



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FW: [Alibre Design] Re: Optimum System for Alibre?

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From: jwknecht[SMTP:JWKNECHT@YAHOO.COM]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 10:50:14 PM
To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Alibre Design] Re: Optimum System for Alibre?
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Wish I had a $3000 for my next home system!

Don't neglect to check out the AMD OpteronTM Series processor.

http://www.amd.com/us-
en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_8826,00.html
(with links to IBM systems... but check others)

or the Intel Xeon
An example of a workstation that you might get :
http://www.abspc.com/app/Series.asp?fam ... &Series=65

Your new system will take care of all of your issues.

But, technique is important too. I have no doubt the patterns were
bogging your system down. We avoid patterns for complex features at
work on our workstations (well over $3000 set ups) running IDEAs.
You should not have problems though with a new workstation running
your existing parts (I am basing this opinion on the fact that you
got buy with the system you have).

Isn't it fun to spend money! Happy shopping.

John




--- In alibre@yahoogroups.com, "brian_wheeler88" <brian@w...> wrote:
> I've got a question for anyone?
>
> I'm running Alibre Pro. on a P4, 1.4 GHz, 256MB RAM w/ a cheap
video
> card. It works great for simple stuff, but obviously bogs down
with
> more complex parts, assemblies and especially drawings. I design
> retail fixtures, which utilize a wide range of materials, such as
> perforated sheet metal, expanded metal and wire grid. I have
found
> that modeling some of these materials is probhibitive with my
current
> system. My questions are as follows:
>
> 1. Is my system bogging down because of poor modeling techniques
on
> my behalf? For example, to model a perforated sheet, I start out
> with a flat tab (if in sheet metal module), or a thin extrusion
(if
> in part module) and put 1 hole in it. Then I pattern that hole in
> the direction of the width of the sheet, then pattern that pattern
in
> the direction of the length of the sheet. If I do this with any
> significant number of holes, I end up shutting my computer off
after
> 10-15 minutes of processing, without a finished part.
>
> 2. If the above modeling method is reasonable, is there a system
out
> there that will do it quickly. I've heard much conflicting advice
> regarding ideal system components for this type of program. Some
say
> it's all about processor speed, some say it's all about RAM, and
> others say it's all about the video card. Does anybody know, from
> experience, what really works? My employer has given me a $3000
> budget for a new workstation. Is is possible to build a system
that
> would allow me to model these types of parts efficiently in this
> price range. If so, can anybody make specific system
recommendations?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Brian



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FW: [Alibre Design] Re: Alibre Design Newsgroup Forum Update

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From: GasparAcevedo[SMTP:GASPAR.ACEVEDO@MAGOVE.COM]
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 12:11:44 PM
To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Alibre Design] Re: Alibre Design Newsgroup Forum Update
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Hi everyone,

1) Is the news group live already? Will it be accessed via the AD
website?

2) For categories, I would like to suggest the following
sections/subsections:

A) HARDWARE

B) ALIBRE DESIGN USAGE
1)2d Drawing Drafting
2)Sketching
3)Assemblies
4)Repository
5)Sheet metal
6)Excel driven design

C) ADDONS
1) Algor
2) Model Press
3) Sprut CAM
4) Photo Render

D) ALIBRE Vs OTHER CAD SISTEMS

E) GENERAL MODELING PRACTICES
1) Alibre Tips and Tricks (probably extracted by the moderator from
posts elsewhere in the forum)
2) Standard Modeling Techniques

F) COLLABORATIONS
Just a section so users can communicate and work together in
projects.

G) FILE TRANSFERING

I hope this helps.

I'm really looking forward for this to start. I enjoy being part of
this friendly and knowledgable community!

Gaspar






--- In alibre@yahoogroups.com, "gregmilliken" <gregm@a...> wrote:
> All,
>
> We are ready to take our new Alibre Design newsgroup live. I hope
> it meets with the expectations of this group.
>
> I have one question though, we have discussed whether the group
> should be moderated and participation require a sign on.
>
> My tendency is to take it live right away with no sign in required
> and leave it open to everyone. Then we will listen to your
feedback
> and decide if we need to tighten it up to keep the spammers and
> other undesirables out. Personally I am not overly sensitive to
> people even making comments that are not pro-Alibre. Just so long
> as the people posting have honest motives and their input is
valid.
> An honest hearing often resolves issues like this anyway.
>
> Thanks,
> Greg



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FW: [Alibre Design] Re: Alibre Design Newsgroup Forum Update

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From: Aaron[SMTP:WHYZGUY@SBCGLOBAL.NET]
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 12:22:43 AM
To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
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I second this motion, looks grrrrrrrrrrrrrr8



-----Original Message-----
From: GasparAcevedo [mailto:gaspar.acevedo@magove.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 10:12 AM
To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Alibre Design] Re: Alibre Design Newsgroup Forum Update



Hi everyone,

1) Is the news group live already? Will it be accessed via the AD
website?

2) For categories, I would like to suggest the following
sections/subsections:

A) HARDWARE

B) ALIBRE DESIGN USAGE
1)2d Drawing Drafting
2)Sketching
3)Assemblies
4)Repository
5)Sheet metal
6)Excel driven design

C) ADDONS
1) Algor
2) Model Press
3) Sprut CAM
4) Photo Render

D) ALIBRE Vs OTHER CAD SISTEMS

E) GENERAL MODELING PRACTICES
1) Alibre Tips and Tricks (probably extracted by the moderator from
posts elsewhere in the forum)
2) Standard Modeling Techniques

F) COLLABORATIONS
Just a section so users can communicate and work together in
projects.

G) FILE TRANSFERING

I hope this helps.

I'm really looking forward for this to start. I enjoy being part of
this friendly and knowledgable community!

Gaspar






--- In alibre@yahoogroups.com, "gregmilliken" <gregm@a...> wrote:
> All,
>
> We are ready to take our new Alibre Design newsgroup live. I hope
> it meets with the expectations of this group.
>
> I have one question though, we have discussed whether the group
> should be moderated and participation require a sign on.
>
> My tendency is to take it live right away with no sign in required
> and leave it open to everyone. Then we will listen to your
feedback
> and decide if we need to tighten it up to keep the spammers and
> other undesirables out. Personally I am not overly sensitive to
> people even making comments that are not pro-Alibre. Just so long
> as the people posting have honest motives and their input is
valid.
> An honest hearing often resolves issues like this anyway.
>
> Thanks,
> Greg





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FW: [Alibre Design] Re: Alibre Design Newsgroup Forum Update

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From: teb1_97[SMTP:METALOCK@EATEL.NET]
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 11:41:45 AM
To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Alibre Design] Re: Alibre Design Newsgroup Forum Update
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I second Dave´s comments. I belong to eng-tips also and it is good.
But, you have to make an effort to go there. With the mail coming
directly to my inbox from the yahoo algor and alibre user groups as
they are posted I can keep up with what´s going on.

Thanks to the group.

Tommy


--- In alibre@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <flywithme6@c...> wrote:
> I was under the impression it would be more of a bulletin board,
much like
> the forums at these places:
>
>
>
> http://www.reeflounge.com/forum/index.php
>
> http://www.eng-tips.com < http://www.eng-tips.com/>
>
> http://web.camaross.com/forums/
>
>
>
> (I just noticed, there already IS an Alibre forum on eng-tips.com at
> http://www.eng-tips.com/gthreadminder.c ... 70/pid/859 )
>
>
>
> These forums have thousands of members, over 7,000 on the
reeflounge and
> 44,000 on the CamaroZ28.com lounge. My concern is that there
aren't really
> enough Alibre list members (yet) that are active posters to support
a group
> like that. While it may be possible with the other groups,
currently the
> only way you can receive actual emails from them is if you either
created
> the thread, or responded to an existing one. I feel that the fact
that this
> group can be sent straight to people's inboxes is one of the reason
nearly
> every post or question gets responded to quickly. I believe that
if the
> group is switched to a website that must be logged into in order to
read
> posts, that the speed at which questions get answered and the
number of
> people that respond to each one will drop.
>
>
>
> I know that every question that's posed to the current group gets
answered,
> largely because it shows up in people's inboxes. If you look at the
> eng-tips.com Alibre forum, there are many questions that had no
responses at
> all.
>
>
>
> I know for me, personally, I only go to the other groups from time
to time,
> when I have something to look up, or am looking to buy something on
one of
> their for sale boards. But I check my email frequently throughout
the day.
> If it's possible to have both, a forum style bulletin board, and
still
> receive all messages through email, that would be the best of both
worlds.
> But if not, I think the amount of postings and responses will drop
for a
> while until the number of users climbs dramatically. Maybe not,
just my
> belief.
>
>
>
> How many of you out there read this group mainly or strictly
through the
> Yahoo web interface?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Scott Wertel [mailto:swertel@y...]
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 5:49 PM
> To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Alibre Design] Re: Alibre Design Newsgroup Forum Update
>
>
>
> OK, questions, yes there are many; comments, many more.
>
> First of all, you say this is a newsgroup. Does that mean it will
> support newsreaders such as Netscape, Outlook Express, and the
> plethora of others?
>
> For those that don't have a newsreader, will their still be an
http://
> way to view the newsgroup? This is especially important so users
can
> search previous threads, like a knowledge base, without having to
keep
> all of them downloaded into their newsreader.
>
> I like "make it live now," but sign on to post. This lets potential
> users get the feel for the newsgroup and the unabridged versions of
> how current users feel. But, they have to submit their information
to
> Alibre's secure server in order to post. This way, when they make
an
> offensive post, you can block their account. Of course, they'll
just
> create a new one, but there are technolog
 
FW: [Alibre Design] Re: Alibre Design Newsgroup Forum Update

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From: reddaddy49441[SMTP:DINSMOOR@GTE.NET]
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 3:37:41 PM
To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Alibre Design] Re: Alibre Design Newsgroup Forum Update
Auto forwarded by a Rule


I'm glad Greg is looking into another message board. It's so
cumbersome to read the messages I receive in email.

I have a question on the suggestions below. What does binaries mean?
I would expect categories like part modeling, assembly, drawings,
sheet metal, tutorials and etc. I understand the 2-7 below but
binaries sounds like 1 and 0's to me.

Collin

--- In alibre@yahoogroups.com, "gregmilliken" <gregm@a...> wrote:
> The new newsgroup will be readable with a standard newsreader and it
> also will have a web interface, so you get the best of both worlds.
>
> We are also reviewing the categories suggested by Scott as a first
> pass. These include:
> (1) binaries
> (2) miscellaneous
> (3) file management
> (4) enhancements
> (5) hardware
> (6) Alibre Announcements
> (7) add-ons
>
> Bear with us as this gets rolling. We'll tweak it as rapidly as
> possible to meet everyone's expectations.
>
> -Greg
>
>
> --- In alibre@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <flywithme6@c...> wrote:
> > Outhouse Express? Yuck. I use Forte Agent for reading news, but
> mainly
> > because I download a lot of binaries as well, and Outhouse express
> is
> > horrible for downloading newsgroup binaries.
> >
> >
> >
> > But I don't think they are going to be creating a usenet
> newsgroup, but a
> > web based forum. Creating a usenet group newsgroup takes no
> effort at all,
> > unless you want to host it on your own server like SolidEdge
> does. All you
> > do is send a control message to alt.config and your group is
> created. After
> > your friends and collegues start using the group, you can start
> asking the
> > other nsp's to start carrying that group and the whole world can
> start using
> > it. I was under the impression that they are going to start up a
> web based
> > forum.
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone have any more details on what the new message group will be?
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Scott Wertel [mailto:swertel@y...]
> > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 7:45 AM
> > To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Alibre Design] Re: Alibre Design Newsgroup Forum Update
> >
> >
> >
> > If you use the newsreader provided by your email applications
> > (assuming you don't use Outlook, which forces you into Outlook
> > Express for news), you essentially do get all the messages in your
> > inbox. It's just a different inbox.
> >
> > --Scott
> >
> >
> > --- In alibre@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <flywithme6@c...> wrote:
> > > I was under the impression it would be more of a bulletin board,
> > much like
> > > the forums at these places:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.reeflounge.com/forum/index.php
> > >
> > > http://www.eng-tips.com < http://www.eng-tips.com/>
> > >
> > > http://web.camaross.com/forums/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > (I just noticed, there already IS an Alibre forum on eng-
> tips.com
> > at
> > > http://www.eng-
> tips.com/gthreadminder.cfm/lev2/22/lev3/70/pid/859 )
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > These forums have thousands of members, over 7,000 on the
> > reeflounge and
> > > 44,000 on the CamaroZ28.com lounge. My concern is that there
> > aren't really
> > > enough Alibre list members (yet) that are active posters to
> > support a group
> > > like that. While it may be possible with the other groups,
> > currently the
> > > only way you can receive actual emails from them is if you
> either
> > created
> > > the thread, or responded to an existing one. I feel that the
> fact
> > that this
> > > group can be sent straight to people's inboxes is one of the
> > reason nearly
> > > every post or question gets responded to quickly. I believe
> that
> > if the
> > > group is switched to a website that must be logged into in order
> > to read
> > > posts, that the speed at which questions get answered and the
> > number of
> > > people that respond to each one will drop.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I know that every question that's posed to the current group
> gets
> > answered,
> > > largely because it shows up in people's inboxes. If you look at
> > the
> > > eng-tips.com Alibre forum, there are many questions that had no
> > responses at
> > > all.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I know for me, personally, I only go to the other groups from
> time
> > to time,
> > > when I have something to look up, or am looking to buy something
> > on one of
> > > their for sale boards. But I check my email frequently
> throughout
> > the day.
> > > If it's possible to have both, a forum style bulletin board, and
> > still
> > > receive all messages through email, that would be the best of
> both
> > worlds.
> > > But if not, I think the amount of postings and responses will
> drop
> > for a
> > > while until the number of users climbs dramatically. Maybe not,
> > just my
> > > belief.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How many of you out there read this group mainly or strictly
> > through the
> > > Yahoo web interface?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > * To visit your group on the web, go to:
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> >
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FW: [Alibre Design] Re: Alibre Design Newsgroup Forum Update

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From: Scott Wertel[SMTP:SWERTEL@YAHOO.COM]
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 5:37:29 PM
To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Alibre Design] Re: Alibre Design Newsgroup Forum Update
Auto forwarded by a Rule


Biniaries is the "standard" newsgroup heading when you can expect
attachments along with the post. Similar to how there is the files
area in the yahoo group. The attachment (file) does not stay with the
message.

The reason for this is as I mentioned earlier. People with dialup
don't have to wait 10 minutes for messages to download because of a
zip file that doesn't apply to them. Basically, you start you message
in misc or one of the other subgroups and when you need to post a file
as an example or to clarify, you also start a message in the binaries
group, cross-referencing your original post. This is simple netiquette.


For those that are requesting a "how-to" or "tips-n-tricks" section.
I guess I don't understand why. The entire set of groups is how-to
and tips-n-tricks. I don't see how we could separate them. Based on
the requests, though, I could see a FAQ subgroup that could be posted
to by Alibre only and it would consolodate a lot of the typical
questions asked.

--Scott




--- In alibre@yahoogroups.com, "reddaddy49441" <dinsmoor@g...> wrote:
> I'm glad Greg is looking into another message board. It's so
> cumbersome to read the messages I receive in email.
>
> I have a question on the suggestions below. What does binaries mean?
> I would expect categories like part modeling, assembly, drawings,
> sheet metal, tutorials and etc. I understand the 2-7 below but
> binaries sounds like 1 and 0's to me.
>
> Collin




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FW: [Alibre Design] Optimum System for Alibre?

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From: brian_wheeler88[SMTP:BRIAN@WIREFABCO.COM]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:05:18 AM
To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Alibre Design] Optimum System for Alibre?
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Dave,

Many thanks for the detailed response - this is a huge help to me!

--- In alibre@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <flywithme6@c...> wrote:
> This is long, so feel free to skip all the explanation crap and
look at the
> summary at the bottom.
>
>
>
> Too little ram will show up with things like, for example,
patterning. Open
> your task manager, look at the processes page, go to View>Add
Columns and
> add the Virtual Memory Size column, and then sort the image name
column so
> Alibre.exe is at the top. Also, look down near the bottom of the
task
> manager window at your commit charge. The big number is the amount
of
> system ram + swap space (virtual ram), and not coincidently is
twice the
> size of your physical ram at the default settings. The smaller
number is
> how much you're currently using. You can also see the same figures
on the
> Performance tab in the "Commit Charge (k)" box. Also of note on the
> Performance page is the Physical Memory box. See how much is
available? If
> you have only 256mb ram and have much running, you'll probably not
have much
> available to use. Ok, now to start breaking stuff. :-) Go back to
the
> Processes tab and look at Alibre.exe. Start a sketch in an Alibre
part.
> Sketch a few small hex figures. Now start to create a pattern of
those
> sketches, say 10x10. You'll see a preview quickly, but now
hit 'ok' in the
> patterning or step and repeat box, whatever it's called. That will
really
> jam you up. Go back to the task manager window and look at
Alibre.exe. The
> CPU cycles will be maybe 100%, and the Mem Usage and VMSize columns
will be
> climbing. If you look on the Applications tab, Alibre Design may
say "not
> responding", but it's just actually churning away. Eventually,
your used
> commit charge will exceed the peak, and windows will tell you
something
> about automatically increasing your virtual memory or something to
that
> effect. Do yourself a favor, and before this happens, end the
Alibre.exe
> process or application. Once the resizing operation begins, you're
nearly
> locked up until you get the process ended, reboot the machine, or
wait
> however long it takes, and it could be hours and hours.
>
>
>
> So.what are the recommendations?
>
>
>
> On Processor speed: the faster the processor is (and front-side
bus - The
> fastest motherboards now have 800Mhz FSBs), the faster everything -
> features, patterns, drawing views, etc. will be created. There are
other
> performance specs besides just the speed of the cpu that make a
difference.
> Also to watch for besides FSB (which is a motherboard function that
must be
> matched to the CPU) is the size of L2 Cache and L3 cache on some
Xeon chips.
> Cache is the highest-speed temporary data storage area on the
computer
> because it's built right onto the CPU chip, so the more the better.
> Celeron's lack much of this, and is why they are slower. Also,
some of the
> new chips support "hyper-threading". Look that up in google.com to
read
> about it. Basically here's how all this affects you: the faster
the
> processor is, the faster everything happens.
>
>
>
> RAM: The reason RAM is so important is this: no matter how fast
your
> processor, frontside bus, etc. is, if you use up all the physical
ram and
> start using lots of virtual memory, you're reading from the hard
drive,
> which is the absolute slowest data access system on the computer.
Sure,
> your Dual Xeon 3.06Ghz 800Mhz FSB hyper-threading CPU is fast, but
if you
> don't have enough ram, you're at the mercy of your hard drive.
Basically,
> get as much as you can st
 
FW: [Alibre Design] Functionality of algor

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From: moyesboy2[SMTP:MOYESBOY2@YAHOO.COM]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:21:48 AM
To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Alibre Design] Functionality of algor
Auto forwarded by a Rule


We have a single Euro character - its there on all Keyboards that
ship outside USA I reckon! Trouble is every email that goes through
the states has the euro character scrambled. The same usually happens
with the pound sign!


--- In alibre@yahoogroups.com, "Barry Kingwill" <barry@t...> wrote:
> It is a bit ridiculous to let you see the displacement, but not
give you a
> scale to quantify it.
>
> As I said before, displacement calculation is the big number
cruncher,
> calculating the stresses from the displacement is the easy part.
>
> It is obviously just meant to be a taster.
>
> But then again with the full Algor package (including non-linear
Event
> Simulation) costing about $18000, I guess they feel they have to
disable all
> but the minimum. I think Linear Static (only) costs a lot less,
probably
> about $5000 to $6000 if I had to hazard a guess.
>
> What it looks like you are getting, is Linear Static with most
features
> disabled.
>
> One must remember there are some other basic and fairly cheap FEA
packages
> available via the internet. Don't know if they support automeshing
and
> import of step or sat files, but they may. LISA is one that pops to
mind.
>
> http://www.lisa-fet.com
>
> I see Linear Static costs Euro 800 (how can they develop a
currency that
> does not have a single digit symbol?), but getting back to the
point... 800
> Euro's is very reasonable for a full Linear Static Package. The
question is
> would it import step or sat files. Probably only DXF.
>
> Regs
> Barry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "snowboarder Bob" <lenitech@y...>
> To: <alibre@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 2:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [Alibre Design] Functionality of algor
>
>
> > No,
> > All that is given is the Von Mises stress plot with
> > the color scale. The displaced model view only shows
> > the Von Mises Stress plot on the displaced model.
> > Also, there is no way to tell the displacement of each
> > node, you are only allowed to measure the distance
> > between nodes. Unfortunately you can't measure the
> > distance between undisplaced and displaced nodes. I
> > think that they want us to buy the software to get
> > this basic functionality.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- "Barry Kingwill (Mobile)" <barry@t...>
> > wrote:
> > > Doesn't it give you a displacement plot, with a
> > > colour scale, just as it
> > > would give you various stress plots, with colour
> > > scales?
> > >
> > > You should just beable to pick on a node, and get
> > > the displacement at that
> > > node, in a text window. Not?
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "snowboarder Bob" <lenitech@y...>
> > > To: <alibre@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 7:43 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Alibre Design] Functionality of algor
> > >
> > >
> > > > Algor designcheck sounds to have similar
> > > functionality
> > > > as you described. However, you can display the
> > > Von
> > > > Mises stress model, displacement model, and
> > > > undisplaced model on top of each other and then
> > > set
> > > > the absolute value to 1 in order to get a good
> > > look at
> > > > what the displacement will look like. There is a
> > > > measurement tool that will allow you to measure
> > > > between nodes but you can't use it to measure
> > > between
> > > > the undisplaced and displaced models. There might
> > > be
> > > > a way to figure out the displacement using this
> > > > measurement tool and doing some quick geometric
> > > calcs.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- moyesboy2 <moyesboy2@y...> wrote:
> > > > > What functonality do you get with the basic
> > > algor
> > > > > package bundled
> > > > > with Alibre?
> > > > > (The Alibre 1 month demo doesn't come with it).
> > > > > I was looking at the cosmos FEA that comes with
> > > > > SLDWX and was
> > > > > disappointed that it doesn't claculate
> > > deflections,
> > > > > only stress with
> > > > > a visual representation of the distortion that
> > > is
> > > > > always the same
> > > > > irrespective of the applied loads.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >



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FW: [Alibre Design] Not Related to the Functionality of algo

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From: Barry Kingwill[SMTP:BARRY@TRITON.CO.ZA]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:33:50 AM
To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Alibre Design] Not Related to the Functionality of algor
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I am outside of the USA and I don't have a Euro character on my keyboard,
nor a Pound character for that matter.


----- Original Message -----
From: "moyesboy2" <moyesboy2@yahoo.com>
To: <alibre@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Alibre Design] Functionality of algor


> We have a single Euro character - its there on all Keyboards that
> ship outside USA I reckon! Trouble is every email that goes through
> the states has the euro character scrambled. The same usually happens
> with the pound sign!
>
>
> --- In alibre@yahoogroups.com, "Barry Kingwill" <barry@t...> wrote:
> > It is a bit ridiculous to let you see the displacement, but not
> give you a
> > scale to quantify it.
> >
> > As I said before, displacement calculation is the big number
> cruncher,
> > calculating the stresses from the displacement is the easy part.
> >
> > It is obviously just meant to be a taster.
> >
> > But then again with the full Algor package (including non-linear
> Event
> > Simulation) costing about $18000, I guess they feel they have to
> disable all
> > but the minimum. I think Linear Static (only) costs a lot less,
> probably
> > about $5000 to $6000 if I had to hazard a guess.
> >
> > What it looks like you are getting, is Linear Static with most
> features
> > disabled.
> >
> > One must remember there are some other basic and fairly cheap FEA
> packages
> > available via the internet. Don't know if they support automeshing
> and
> > import of step or sat files, but they may. LISA is one that pops to
> mind.
> >
> > http://www.lisa-fet.com
> >
> > I see Linear Static costs Euro 800 (how can they develop a
> currency that
> > does not have a single digit symbol?), but getting back to the
> point... 800
> > Euro's is very reasonable for a full Linear Static Package. The
> question is
> > would it import step or sat files. Probably only DXF.
> >
> > Regs
> > Barry
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "snowboarder Bob" <lenitech@y...>
> > To: <alibre@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 2:16 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Alibre Design] Functionality of algor
> >
> >
> > > No,
> > > All that is given is the Von Mises stress plot with
> > > the color scale. The displaced model view only shows
> > > the Von Mises Stress plot on the displaced model.
> > > Also, there is no way to tell the displacement of each
> > > node, you are only allowed to measure the distance
> > > between nodes. Unfortunately you can't measure the
> > > distance between undisplaced and displaced nodes. I
> > > think that they want us to buy the software to get
> > > this basic functionality.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- "Barry Kingwill (Mobile)" <barry@t...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Doesn't it give you a displacement plot, with a
> > > > colour scale, just as it
> > > > would give you various stress plots, with colour
> > > > scales?
> > > >
> > > > You should just beable to pick on a node, and get
> > > > the displacement at that
> > > > node, in a text window. Not?
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "snowboarder Bob" <lenitech@y...>
> > > > To: <alibre@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 7:43 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Alibre Design] Functionality of algor
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Algor designcheck sounds to have similar
> > > > functionality
> > > > > as you described. However, you can display the
> > > > Von
> > > > > Mises stress model, displacement model, and
> > > > > undisplaced model on top of each other and then
> > > > set
> > > > > the absolute value to 1 in order to get a good
> > > > look at
> > > > > what the displacement will look like. There is a
> > > > > measurement tool that will allow you to measure
> > > > > between nodes but you can't use it to measure
> > > > between
> > > > > the undisplaced and displaced models. There might
> > > > be
> > > > > a way to figure out the displacement using this
> > > > > measurement tool and doing some quick geometric
> > > > calcs.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- moyesboy2 <moyesboy2@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > What functonality do you get with the basic
> > > > algor
> > > > > > package bundled
> > > > > > with Alibre?
> > > > > > (The Alibre 1 month demo doesn't come with it).
> > > > > > I was looking at the cosmos FEA that comes with
> > > > > > SLDWX and was
> > > > > > disappointed that it doesn't claculate
> > > > deflections,
> > > > > > only stress with
> > > > > > a visual representation of the distortion that
> > > > is
> > > > > > always the same
> > > > > > irrespective of the applied loads.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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FW: [Alibre Design] Functionality of algor

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From: moyesboy2[SMTP:MOYESBOY2@YAHOO.COM]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:36:13 AM
To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Alibre Design] Functionality of algor
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I looked over my suppliers shoulder while they imported my step file
into sldwx and analysed the bending of my stain guage beam part.
Comosworks calculated a stress about 80% of what I read with the
strain guage. The sldwx cosmaos does not reveal the displacements.
Even the mesh size is a bit of a mystery.

I downloaded the 15 day demo from Algor they say it is the same as
what is supplied with Alibre (this you can lease for $500/3 months),
it does include the internal to Algor part modelling. So far,
although it seems to mesh Ok and shows something like the right sort
of bent shape, the stress and illustrated displacement are getting on
for 100 times too small. Presumably there is something fundamentally
wrong (though it doesn't seem to be the units!).

Also it takes something like 50 minutes to analyse my simple built in
one end single load beam on my 2Gz AMD 500 legs of lamb machine
(Cosmosworks was almost instant on the similar hardware). This uses a
meshsize 80% of default as suggested in help.

I'm not impressed so far.
Also, amusingly, they phones me about 10 seconds after filling in the
online form during the demo install, before the installation was
complete... and again the next day!

Moyesboy2



--- In alibre@yahoogroups.com, "Bill King" <bill.king@i...> wrote:
> Are you talking about a real Algor package or Alibre w/ design
check.
> The real package is a linear stress package. It does give stress and
> strain. It is a full up tool. It includes an actual model geometry
> building interface similar to Patran, but a whole lot easier to
use. You
> also get beams and trusses with it. If you are ever going to hand
build
> a model, I definitely would not get Cosmos. I say that because I
hand
> build models all the time and do things that Cosmos can't do,
especially
> the SW integrated Cosmos Works package.
>
> Not that I am trying to schlep anything, but I am an Algor reseller
and
> can show you what you can do via Netmeeting or something. If you
haven't
> talked w/ an Algor rep, get in contact with me. Even if you have,
I'll
> still help you decide.
>
> Bill King
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moyesboy2 [mailto:moyesboy2@y...]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 8:37 AM
> To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Alibre Design] Functionality of algor
>
> What functonality do you get with the basic algor package bundled
> with Alibre?
> (The Alibre 1 month demo doesn't come with it).
> I was looking at the cosmos FEA that comes with SLDWX and was
> disappointed that it doesn't claculate deflections, only stress
with
> a visual representation of the distortion that is always the same
> irrespective of the applied loads.
>
>
>
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FW: [Alibre Design] Functionality of algor

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From: Barry Kingwill[SMTP:BARRY@TRITON.CO.ZA]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:42:21 AM
To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Alibre Design] Functionality of algor
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Something very wrong there. I have just analysed a 70 000 element model in
less than 5 minutes.

I would check with Algor support.

Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: "moyesboy2" <moyesboy2@yahoo.com>
To: <alibre@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Alibre Design] Functionality of algor


> I looked over my suppliers shoulder while they imported my step file
> into sldwx and analysed the bending of my stain guage beam part.
> Comosworks calculated a stress about 80% of what I read with the
> strain guage. The sldwx cosmaos does not reveal the displacements.
> Even the mesh size is a bit of a mystery.
>
> I downloaded the 15 day demo from Algor they say it is the same as
> what is supplied with Alibre (this you can lease for $500/3 months),
> it does include the internal to Algor part modelling. So far,
> although it seems to mesh Ok and shows something like the right sort
> of bent shape, the stress and illustrated displacement are getting on
> for 100 times too small. Presumably there is something fundamentally
> wrong (though it doesn't seem to be the units!).
>
> Also it takes something like 50 minutes to analyse my simple built in
> one end single load beam on my 2Gz AMD 500 legs of lamb machine
> (Cosmosworks was almost instant on the similar hardware). This uses a
> meshsize 80% of default as suggested in help.
>
> I'm not impressed so far.
> Also, amusingly, they phones me about 10 seconds after filling in the
> online form during the demo install, before the installation was
> complete... and again the next day!
>
> Moyesboy2
>
>
>
> --- In alibre@yahoogroups.com, "Bill King" <bill.king@i...> wrote:
> > Are you talking about a real Algor package or Alibre w/ design
> check.
> > The real package is a linear stress package. It does give stress and
> > strain. It is a full up tool. It includes an actual model geometry
> > building interface similar to Patran, but a whole lot easier to
> use. You
> > also get beams and trusses with it. If you are ever going to hand
> build
> > a model, I definitely would not get Cosmos. I say that because I
> hand
> > build models all the time and do things that Cosmos can't do,
> especially
> > the SW integrated Cosmos Works package.
> >
> > Not that I am trying to schlep anything, but I am an Algor reseller
> and
> > can show you what you can do via Netmeeting or something. If you
> haven't
> > talked w/ an Algor rep, get in contact with me. Even if you have,
> I'll
> > still help you decide.
> >
> > Bill King
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: moyesboy2 [mailto:moyesboy2@y...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 8:37 AM
> > To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Alibre Design] Functionality of algor
> >
> > What functonality do you get with the basic algor package bundled
> > with Alibre?
> > (The Alibre 1 month demo doesn't come with it).
> > I was looking at the cosmos FEA that comes with SLDWX and was
> > disappointed that it doesn't claculate deflections, only stress
> with
> > a visual representation of the distortion that is always the same
> > irrespective of the applied loads.
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > * To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alibre/
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> of
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>
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Fwd: Re: [Alibre Design] Functionality of algor

--- In alibre@yahoogroups.com, "Barry Kingwill" <barry@t...> wrote:
Something very wrong there. I have just analysed a 70 000 element
model in
less than 5 minutes.

I would check with Algor support.

Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: "moyesboy2" <moyesboy2@y...>
To: <alibre@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Alibre Design] Functionality of algor


> I looked over my suppliers shoulder while they imported my step
file
> into sldwx and analysed the bending of my stain guage beam part.
> Comosworks calculated a stress about 80% of what I read with the
> strain guage. The sldwx cosmaos does not reveal the displacements.
> Even the mesh size is a bit of a mystery.
>
> I downloaded the 15 day demo from Algor they say it is the same as
> what is supplied with Alibre (this you can lease for $500/3
months),
> it does include the internal to Algor part modelling. So far,
> although it seems to mesh Ok and shows something like the right
sort
> of bent shape, the stress and illustrated displacement are getting
on
> for 100 times too small. Presumably there is something
fundamentally
> wrong (though it doesn't seem to be the units!).
>
> Also it takes something like 50 minutes to analyse my simple built
in
> one end single load beam on my 2Gz AMD 500 legs of lamb machine
> (Cosmosworks was almost instant on the similar hardware). This
uses a
> meshsize 80% of default as suggested in help.
>
> I'm not impressed so far.
> Also, amusingly, they phones me about 10 seconds after filling in
the
> online form during the demo install, before the installation was
> complete... and again the next day!
>
> Moyesboy2
>
>
>
> --- In alibre@yahoogroups.com, "Bill King" <bill.king@i...> wrote:
> > Are you talking about a real Algor package or Alibre w/ design
> check.
> > The real package is a linear stress package. It does give stress
and
> > strain. It is a full up tool. It includes an actual model
geometry
> > building interface similar to Patran, but a whole lot easier to
> use. You
> > also get beams and trusses with it. If you are ever going to hand
> build
> > a model, I definitely would not get Cosmos. I say that because I
> hand
> > build models all the time and do things that Cosmos can't do,
> especially
> > the SW integrated Cosmos Works package.
> >
> > Not that I am trying to schlep anything, but I am an Algor
reseller
> and
> > can show you what you can do via Netmeeting or something. If you
> haven't
> > talked w/ an Algor rep, get in contact with me. Even if you have,
> I'll
> > still help you decide.
> >
> > Bill King
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: moyesboy2 [ mailto:moyesboy2@y...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 8:37 AM
> > To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Alibre Design] Functionality of algor
> >
> > What functonality do you get with the basic algor package bundled
> > with Alibre?
> > (The Alibre 1 month demo doesn't come with it).
> > I was looking at the cosmos FEA that comes with SLDWX and was
> > disappointed that it doesn't claculate deflections, only stress
> with
> > a visual representation of the distortion that is always the same
> > irrespective of the applied loads.
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
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> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alibre/
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FW: [Alibre Design] radial placed holes

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From: daniel_angheluta[SMTP:DANIEL_ANGHELUTA@YAHOO.COM]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 12:18:48 PM
To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Alibre Design] radial placed holes
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Hello,

I'm new around here and I'm still learning.

Is anybody there to know how to add a RADIAL hole? I have a
cylindrical part and I have to add a number of threaded holes for the
conjugated covers.

Thanks,

Daniel



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FW: [Alibre Design] Re: radial placed holes

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From: ildstaal[SMTP:KPBROM@C2I.NET]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 1:31:29 PM
To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Alibre Design] Re: radial placed holes
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Hi, if I understand your question right:

Make one hole (on the end face of the cyl. part - or where you want
it), then go to feature-pattern-circular
Your hole should be selected in features and you choose the cyl.
center axis as center and get the number and angle right. The "?"
button should give some hints.

Hope it helped.

Tore

--- In alibre@yahoogroups.com, "daniel_angheluta" <daniel_angheluta@y.
..> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm new around here and I'm still learning.
>
> Is anybody there to know how to add a RADIAL hole? I have a
> cylindrical part and I have to add a number of threaded holes for
the
> conjugated covers.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Daniel



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FW: [Alibre Design] Not Related to the Functionality of algo

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From: ildstaal[SMTP:KPBROM@C2I.NET]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 1:10:26 PM
To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
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USD
GBP
EUR
and so on... then you stay safe from mixing the different dollar,
punds etc.
The EUR don't look as cool at the EUR sigh though...

Tore

--- In alibre@yahoogroups.com, "Barry Kingwill" <barry@t...> wrote:
> I am outside of the USA and I don't have a Euro character on my
keyboard,
> nor a Pound character for that matter.
>
>
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FW: [Alibre Design] Alibre Design Forum - UPDATE

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From: yahoo-alibre
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 3:27:34 PM
To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Alibre Design] Alibre Design Forum - UPDATE
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Members:

I'd like to thank you all for your feedback on the new Alibre Design
forum. We want to keep the momentum going, however, after receiving
your posts regarding the features you would like to have, we are
delaying a release of the new forum to take these thing into account.

Thank you very much,
Camey Psaromatis
IT Manager
Alibre, Inc.



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FW: [Alibre Design] radial placed holes

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From: Dave[SMTP:FLYWITHME6@COMCAST.NET]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 3:15:21 PM
To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Alibre Design] radial placed holes
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By radial, do you mean a radial distance from the center, but still with the hole’s axis aligned with the cylindrical part, or do you mean radially with the holes’s axis perpendicular to the cylinders axis?



The first one, just sketch on the flat end of the cylinder, and dimension the hole from the center.



If you mean the second one, through the side of the cylinder, you’ll have to add a new plane to use as the sketch plane for your hole. Add an offset plane from one of the part’s main xy/xz/yz planes and sketch on the resulting plane. You could then pattern those holes if you’d like.



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From: daniel_angheluta [mailto:daniel_angheluta@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 12:19 PM
To: alibre@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Alibre Design] radial placed holes



Hello,

I'm new around here and I'm still learning.

Is anybody there to know how to add a RADIAL hole? I have a
cylindrical part and I have to add a number of threaded holes for the
conjugated covers.

Thanks,

Daniel






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