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2015 3D printer guide

bigseb

Alibre Super User
The 2015 3D printer guide is available on 3D Hubs. Check it out here.

The Flashforge Creator Pro comes in at 2nd place which I thought was interesting as I have the Creator X (essentially a Pro without hood and door).
 

MikeHenry

Alibre Super User
The Zortrax M200 came in at 1st place in the Plug and Play division. One of the Cons in the review was limited filament type, but they just released two more (Z-HIPS and Z-Glass) in addition to Z-ABS and Z-Ultrat that they've been selling for a while now. Based on your experience with HIPS, I'm ordering some of that soon.

It looks like the Flashforge slicer has a lot more options than Zortrax's proprietary slicer. Do you tend to fiddle with slicer settings a lot depending on the project or do you have a couple of favorite parameter selections that suffice for most of your work?

Mike
 

bigseb

Alibre Super User
MikeHenry said:
The Zortrax M200 came in at 1st place in the Plug and Play division. One of the Cons in the review was limited filament type, but they just released two more (Z-HIPS and Z-Glass) in addition to Z-ABS and Z-Ultrat that they've been selling for a while now. Based on your experience with HIPS, I'm ordering some of that soon.
Yeah HIPS is a great material to work with. Nice finish too. More importantly you can get a food-grade HIPS which is handy. What size filament do you use? If its 1.75mm or 3mm can't you just use a non-Zortrax brand?

MikeHenry said:
It looks like the Flashforge slicer has a lot more options than Zortrax's proprietary slicer. Do you tend to fiddle with slicer settings a lot depending on the project or do you have a couple of favorite parameter selections that suffice for most of your work?

FlashForge use MakerWare Desktop. RepG also works but that is way outdated and nobody uses it to slice. RepG is handy for updating firmware though. Anyway MakerWare Desktop has a ton of options. What I did is create a variety of profiles that are fine-tuned to the filament used and the desired layer height. Then I just pick a profile and set things like support structure, infill density, etc. Currently my custom profile list looks like this:

- ABS 0.05mm
- ABS 0.1mm
- ABS 0.2mm
- ABS 0.3mm

- PLA 0.05mm
- PLA 0.1mm
- PLA 0.2mm
- PLA 0.3mm

- HIPS 0.05mm
- HIPS 0.1mm
- HIPS 0.2mm
- HIPS 0.3mm

Here is a list of MakerWare Destop settings (there is a bit of overlap):
 

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MikeHenry

Alibre Super User
bigseb said:
Yeah HIPS is a great material to work with. Nice finish too. More importantly you can get a food-grade HIPS which is handy. What size filament do you use? If its 1.75mm or 3mm can't you just use a non-Zortrax brand?

The Zortrax uses 1.75 mm filament and their warranty is invalidated if you use someone else's filament. There's no way for them to tell, of course, unless you own up to it somewhere, but the extruder profiles are hardcoded in the slicer for each Zortrax filament and can't be changed, though one owner is working on an add-on that would let you change extruder temperature manually. The Zortrax filament seems to be cheaper by weight than most 3rd party offerinsgs. ABS is $US20 per 800 g net, but shipping from China adds about $US10/spool to that. That still seems to be cheaper than others and there are now some USA Zortrax distributors so overall cost may come down a bit. Their HIPS filament is $US50, plus shipping and I haven't cost compared that yet with other brands.

bigseb said:
FlashForge use MakerWare Desktop. RepG also works but that is way outdated and nobody uses it to slice. RepG is handy for updating firmware though. Anyway MakerWare Desktop has a ton of options. What I did is create a variety of profiles that are fine-tuned to the filament used and the desired layer height. Then I just pick a profile and set things like support structure, infill density, etc. Currently my custom profile list looks like this:

- ABS 0.05mm
- ABS 0.1mm
...

That offers a whole lot more customization than Zortrax's slicer, but Zortrax seems to be servicing the casual user that doesn't want to get bogged down in trial and erroring a lot of parameters. There are downsides to that approach, but on the whole, I'm very happy with the printer, hopefully more so with HIPS and Z-Glass available now.

Mike
 

bigseb

Alibre Super User
MikeHenry said:
That offers a whole lot more customization than Zortrax's slicer, but Zortrax seems to be servicing the casual user that doesn't want to get bogged down in trial and erroring a lot of parameters. There are downsides to that approach, but on the whole, I'm very happy with the printer, hopefully more so with HIPS and Z-Glass available now.
Its a shame that they aren't allowing users to create custom profiles. The Cube range of printers has the same problem from what I've heard. Custom profiles not only allow you to better control the quality of the print but also the time taken, material used and the load on the bot...

EDIT: ... and you can custom your bot to your needs. Something I have been getting more and more into lately...
 

MikeHenry

Alibre Super User
bigseb said:
Its a shame that they aren't allowing users to create custom profiles. The Cube range of printers has the same problem from what I've heard. Custom profiles not only allow you to better control the quality of the print but also the time taken, material used and the load on the bot...

EDIT: ... and you can custom your bot to your needs. Something I have been getting more and more into lately...

I think that they have decided to cater to the user that mostly wants to load a model and print without tweaking too many parameters. So far, I've had pretty good luck with that approach, except for large footprint models, and the new filaments and slicer/firmware techniques are supposed to help quite a bit in that area. Zortrax just sent me a free spool of Z-Glass transparent filament and that should be fun to play with. The HIPS will be here next week, too.
 
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