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rockfusion

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New 3DSystems website rolled out. Under the 'design' section, Geomagic is still listed and shows the new greenish-blue cover. I had a converstaion with a really nice (and actually helpful) rep from 3DSystems a few days back and she said she acknowledged that it was weird for the company to not have any updates for over a year and a half, but that Geomagic Design is still a very lucrative and good product for them. She also said that they should have an upgrade or announcement very soon for the GD followers. It sounded to me like she knows a lot more, but wanted to give me a nugget of hope.

Here's the new site, poke around... https://www.3dsystems.com/workflow/design
 
RocketNut said:
I notice that they mentioned Lew Merrick testimony on there Design page.
That (posted) statement is actually true. I admit that I usually do my (2D) concept sketches using General CADD, but my actual design work is done (mostly) using Geomagic Design. The besetting sin of Alibre/Geomagic is the "lack" of "polishing" done once something has been initially implemented.

Take the Hole Preset System as an example. How many of you are aware that it even exists? I spent hours "reverse engineering" it (and posted a Libre Office Calc spreadsheet to aid in developing a alibre_unicode.hps dataset here). I know of no other "documentation" on the subject. Back at Alibre Design V12 we gained the ability to "sort" our alibre_unicode_custom.mtl data such that they could be grouped into "categories" such as Alum-HT or Alum-Non-HT to create an indexed search tree. My alibre_unicode.hps dataset has something like 175 "entries." That "drop-down list" is longer than my screen! Being able to "catagorize" them into (say) In SHCS and (say) mm SHCS would go a long way towards making this a much more useful feature. In theory at least, the basis for this code should be readily available to 3D Systems as it already exists!

Please believe that I can hold forth for hours (and prove the old machinist's adage about being as sharp as a drill and twice as boring) on this subject.
 

HaroldL

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rockfusion said:
New 3DSystems website rolled out. Under the 'design' section, Geomagic is still listed and shows the new greenish-blue cover. I had a converstaion with a really nice (and actually helpful) rep from 3DSystems a few days back and she said she acknowledged that it was weird for the company to not have any updates for over a year and a half, but that Geomagic Design is still a very lucrative and good product for them. She also said that they should have an upgrade or announcement very soon for the GD followers. It sounded to me like she knows a lot more, but wanted to give me a nugget of hope.

Here's the new site, poke around... https://www.3dsystems.com/workflow/design
When I started this thread I was wondering if we would see a 2016 version. Maybe, if the rep you spoke to is correct, we'll see a 2017 version (he said, waiting with bated breath). As for updating their web site, it is interesting that they have finally posted some videos of Design being used but it would be nice if they would create some that are, if not current, at least newer than those that were created when the name was Alibre.
 

RocketNut

Alibre Super User
bigseb said:
Scam? https://www.3dsystems.com/software/geomagic-design

The dude with the beard and glasses... look at his screen... ribbon looks like GD, the tree looks like GD but the workspace?? That rendered image is NOT GD. The rest of the page is tip-top as far as I'm concerned but that top image is not.

I don't like stuff like that.

It looks like they superposed a KeyShot rending on to the screen shot. Very miss leading.
 

KMoffett

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Maybe that's what the new Geomagic Design will actually look like. :D Otherwise it borders on false advertising. :( But it could be just an alternate fact. :roll:

Ken
 

bigseb

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KMoffett said:
Maybe that's what the new Geomagic Design will actually look like.

I hope not. It'll render most people PC's useless. (Get it? Render? :roll: :wink: )

KMoffett said:
Otherwise it borders on false advertising.

More likely. Don't know why they would do that either. No other MCAD software look like that. Looks fine how it is.
 

dmckee101

Alibre Super User
bigseb said:
More likely. Don't know why they would do that either. No other MCAD software look like that. Looks fine how it is.
I was right there with you ready to call, "Shenanigans" when I tried to find similar toolbars in Assembly or Part Edit in Assembly. I couldn't find anything that was close enough to say that's a GD session pictured (unless it's the mythical new version). The window top bar and logo icon in upper right [edit: upper LEFT :oops: ] were things I couldn't reproduce either. So I will call Shenanigans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNxCvDYpmxE
 

HaroldL

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bigseb said:
Scam? https://www.3dsystems.com/software/geomagic-design

The dude with the beard and glasses... look at his screen... ribbon looks like GD, the tree looks like GD but the workspace?? That rendered image is NOT GD. The rest of the page is tip-top as far as I'm concerned but that top image is not.

I don't like stuff like that.

Maybe they are embedding Keyshot into Keyshot to get those nice shiny images. :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

fiddler

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A bunch of people will not be renewing their license when renewal time is up if they are seen as at least fixing current issues
my 2c etc

K
 

nvanlaar

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dmckee101 said:
bigseb said:
More likely. Don't know why they would do that either. No other MCAD software look like that. Looks fine how it is.
I was right there with you ready to call, "Shenanigans" when I tried to find similar toolbars in Assembly or Part Edit in Assembly. I couldn't find anything that was close enough to say that's a GD session pictured (unless it's the mythical new version). The window top bar and logo icon in upper right [edit: upper LEFT :oops: ] were things I couldn't reproduce either.

It looks like the "Viewing and Analysis" Ribbon tab blended with something else, and yeah, the logo is the wrong color and the top quick tool set looks different.
Did I miss a long overdue update...? :| ...
 

nvanlaar

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bigseb said:
No other MCAD software look like that...
I wouldn't necessarily say that. Autodesk products and probably SW has built-in realistic rendering.
 

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HaroldL

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Those images are all nice and shiny but I wouldn't call them "realistic". They're packing so much fake rendering into CAD software now that it's becoming too bloated to do its original intended purpose. Now you need a high end graphics card in order for some CAD just to run. And some of those cards can be half the cost of your computer or workstation.

That's what is nice about Keyshot. It does a better job of rendering than CAD and you don't need the high end gpu but can use what ever cpu you have.
 

bigseb

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nvanlaar said:
bigseb said:
No other MCAD software look like that...
I wouldn't necessarily say that. Autodesk products and probably SW has built-in realistic rendering.
True that they have rendering built-in but like Harold says they are not photorealistic. Now I should add that I have past experience with Solidworks but not Autodesk. Standalone specialist software like Keyshot and Simlab blows anything I've seen out the water. My opinion. YMMV.
 
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