Ralf
Alibre Super User
A really good example for good product marketing with hyperShot and hyperMove:
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The new Castrol Website
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The new Castrol Website
Poll - Do you plan on purchasing HyperShot for rendering?
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Jeff,
The way I understand it, as long as the upgrades are the same numeral, for instance, 1.1,,,, 1.2 ,,,1.3 ... then there is no charge, I suspect when version 2 rolls around there will be an "upgrade" cost. I have no idea what that will be, but ordinarily when upgrading to the next version it seems the costs are generally pretty reasonable.
As to the maintainence ... I haven't read anything anywhere indicating there is such a cost associated with the software, that doesn't mean it isn't there, but I haven't seen any indication of a fee.
As you can tell, I don't know anything concrete as far as your questions, but I would think someone who does actually know the score will chime in and enlighten both of us.
rollin'
The way I understand it, as long as the upgrades are the same numeral, for instance, 1.1,,,, 1.2 ,,,1.3 ... then there is no charge, I suspect when version 2 rolls around there will be an "upgrade" cost. I have no idea what that will be, but ordinarily when upgrading to the next version it seems the costs are generally pretty reasonable.
As to the maintainence ... I haven't read anything anywhere indicating there is such a cost associated with the software, that doesn't mean it isn't there, but I haven't seen any indication of a fee.
As you can tell, I don't know anything concrete as far as your questions, but I would think someone who does actually know the score will chime in and enlighten both of us.
rollin'
Ralf
Alibre Super User
I may add,
We have purchased hyperShot V1.xx and all updates ->1.7x were without extra cost also the next V1.8 release.
For all versions: HS-web, HS-HD and HS-Pro.
V 1.8 should be available next week. :wink:
Webinar-release of HyperShot 1.8.
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And for those interested in HyperMove: HyperMove news
We have purchased hyperShot V1.xx and all updates ->1.7x were without extra cost also the next V1.8 release.
For all versions: HS-web, HS-HD and HS-Pro.
V 1.8 should be available next week. :wink:
Webinar-release of HyperShot 1.8.
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And for those interested in HyperMove: HyperMove news
No offense to Ralf because he really loves the Hypershot, but I am a maybe as well. It looks really great and user friendly but I really don't know how it will make me money. As you know I am using Professional, not expert. So I do not have any photo render software.
Sorry Ralf
Sorry Ralf
Ralf
Alibre Super User
No problem "Wing-Nut"
If you have time, you may want to wait for Alibre V 1X.0 :lol:
If you have time, you may want to wait for Alibre V 1X.0 :lol:
aeromorrison
Senior Member
I do some rendering work for marketing, but I just don't use it enough to justify a significant purchase. I think that Alibre Photorender gives decent results for the occasional user. I see significant return on investment for Alibre itself, but my business doesn't (yet) see return on investment for something like Hypershot. Don't get me wrong, however, I would love to have time to "play around" more with rendering, but I am too busy trying to get customer jobs finished. I think retaining some basic rendering capabilties in Alibre Professional and Expert is very positive. If not, then some "partner" solution that is very low cost or free would be helpful.
Wing-Nut said:
I thought PhotoRender came with Pro,too?
http://www.alibre.com/products/mechanic ... for_me.asp
NateLiquidGravity
Alibre Super User
MilesH said:
It does in my pro pack.
NateLiquidGravity
Alibre Super User
aeromorrison said:
I wouldn't worry much about the time to "play around" more with rendering with HyperShot. I tried the demo and it is so user friendly that in less than 30 min of playing around I had a very nice Shot of one of our products. It looked so realistic that if it wasn't standing upright on the ground (a physical improbability for our product) you might think it was a photo. After hours playing around with PhotoRender I have yet to make something that realistic.
>>[NAteLiqGrav] After hours playing around with PhotoRender I have yet to make something that realistic.
I strongly agree with Nate on this. I have managed to get Photorender to give a better rendering than a captured Alibre screen display but not by much. I would occaisionally like to do the classy renderings possible with Hypershot, but not if it costs me very much.
For a mechanical design package (as I consider Alibre to be) Photorealistic renderings are marketing Bling, both in selling the program to users and for the users to sell the product designed to their customers, bosses etc.
It really does not improve the efficiency or design capabilities of the program or the validity of the model presented with it.
I would hate to see any preoccupation with realistic rendering take the developer's eyes off of the things that actually get the job done.
For me that means doing some work with the orphaned sheetmetal module and some improvements in the modeling & drawing environments, but that is not what this thread is about.
Jimpulse
I strongly agree with Nate on this. I have managed to get Photorender to give a better rendering than a captured Alibre screen display but not by much. I would occaisionally like to do the classy renderings possible with Hypershot, but not if it costs me very much.
For a mechanical design package (as I consider Alibre to be) Photorealistic renderings are marketing Bling, both in selling the program to users and for the users to sell the product designed to their customers, bosses etc.
It really does not improve the efficiency or design capabilities of the program or the validity of the model presented with it.
I would hate to see any preoccupation with realistic rendering take the developer's eyes off of the things that actually get the job done.
For me that means doing some work with the orphaned sheetmetal module and some improvements in the modeling & drawing environments, but that is not what this thread is about.
Jimpulse
You're right that this is sort of off topic from the decision on whether or not to buy HyperShot, but since there are a number of people expressing this I think it's worth addressing.Jimpulse said:
Alibre users who don't care as much about rendering and want more improvements to the modeling and drawing environments should see a transition from PhotoRender to HyperShot as a plus. With the developers at Bunkspeed handling the rendering, Alibre developers who otherwise would have to spend more time on PhotoRender are freed up to make even more enhancements and bug fixes for the core product like you are interested in.
Users who do care about rendering will have access to a much more robust package to that end, while still enjoying the benefits of greater improvements in Alibre Design itself.
That's my perspective on it as a developer anyway. I just wanted to clear up that HyperShot taking our eyes off of modeling and drawing couldn't be further from the truth.