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sz0k30

Senior Member
I have a tube made up of a profile sketch and a 3D path sketch. Just 4 straight lines and 3 radiuses. Is there any way to get the total length of the the 3D path sketch?
 

HaroldL

Alibre Super User
In the measure tool, select Chain then select all the figures in the sketch.You will see the total length it the results.
Total Length.png
 

sz0k30

Senior Member
Harold, I'm aware that's the way it works in "2D" sketches. Now show me how to do it in "3D" sketches. A pretty simple part is attached. The total length of a hose is something that should be very basic in any 3D CAD system.
 

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simonb65

Alibre Super User
NO KIDDING! I can't believe in all these years no one has ever need the length of a hose or a tube.
I'm just starting to do a lot more cable modelling with a view to cable/harness routing and wire length BOM's (like the electrical module in Solidworks), so discovering that has made me wonder if sketch lengths are available in the API too!
 

HaroldL

Alibre Super User
Harold, I'm aware that's the way it works in "2D" sketches. Now show me how to do it in "3D" sketches. A pretty simple part is attached. The total length of a hose is something that should be very basic in any 3D CAD system.
You can't, the measure tool is greyed out in 3D sketch mode!

Well ... that needs addressing.
I work so seldom with 3D sketches I guess I just figured that the Measure tool was available.
I think it is short sighted to NOT have a measure tool in 3D environment. You cannot even use the Status bar at the bottom of the window to get accurate measurements.o_Oo_Oo_O

Seems like a simple thing to add the Measure tool to 3D.
 

idslk

Alibre Super User
I have a tube made up of a profile sketch and a 3D path sketch. Just 4 straight lines and 3 radiuses. Is there any way to get the total length of the the 3D path sketch?
Not very comfortable, but, as long as there is no spline in...
upload_2021-3-18_21-25-36.png

In my opinion this should be doable from Alibre natively with one click...

Regards
Stefan
 

GIOV

Alibre Super User
have a tube made up of a profile sketch and a 3D path sketch. Just 4 straight lines and 3 radiuses. Is there any way to get the total length of the the 3D path sketch?
For Calculus of the path a do the 3/4 circle or rectangle sketch profile, apply swept boss and in the edge path apply measure tool and lastly add all path measured as show in the figure.
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GIOV

Alibre Super User
Or do the path with Spline curve and apply measure tool in the center edge as show below:
upload_2021-3-18_18-49-12.png
 

NateLiquidGravity

Alibre Super User
I've faked bending tubing using a sheet metal part so I could unbend it. Unfortunately the workspace isn't designed to allow bends sideways on the sheet so it only works when everything is on one plane.

If you enable the other solid features you can even radius it and hollow it with a shell. However then it will no longer unbend so then you will need configurations to create a bent and unbent version with the solid features suppressed when appropriate.

Maybe a complicated workaround using a combination using sheet metal, configurations, and Boolean features would give a perfect looking model that has a bent and an unbent state.
 

sz0k30

Senior Member
Not very comfortable, but, as long as there is no spline in...
View attachment 33072

In my opinion this should be doable from Alibre natively with one click...

Regards
Stefan

Who cares if there is a spline in it or not - shouldn't matter.

It absolutely should be done in 1 click. Probably is in every other system.

And GIOV, are you serious???

Like Bigseb always says, Alibre needs to focus more on the basics and less on the fluff.
 

idslk

Alibre Super User
Who cares if there is a spline in it or not - shouldn't matter.
It would be nice if it wouldn't matter...
Today you can't put a length dimension to spline in sketch mode.
So the shown work around is only valid for lines,arcs or circles and can be used with normal dimensioned sketches.
Works for me because i have most of the time completely constrained sketches...

Regards
Stefan
 

bigseb

Alibre Super User
Like Bigseb always says, Alibre needs to focus more on the basics and less on the fluff.
It's true. In the meantime use the workaround. At least that way you will get the info you need. Just don't use the workaround around a client, it looks amateurish.
 

GIOV

Alibre Super User
I have a tube made up of a profile sketch and a 3D path sketch. Just 4 straight lines and 3 radiuses. Is there any way to get the total length of the the 3D path sketch?
Well, the question I understood was to know the length of the 3D Sketch Path of the tube and one of the ways to know it is adding the edges that compose it or the edges produced by the Spline as I showed it in some figures in my previous post. But now you have an easier way to get it which is through Stefan's script in one click!
 
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