I don't remember the year but Alibre was only Alibre. They came out with the expert or professional version so I preordered it and I think it was only around $800.00. That included Algor FEA, machining, motion, sheet metal and rendering if I remember correctly. That is when some other user could ask you a question while your working, you could accept and take the time to help them or did not accept the request through the software. That was before forums.